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Dec 3, 2010

TV Review: FRINGE: Season 3, Ep. 8: Entrada

Anna Torv, Fringe , Season 3, Episode 8, Entrada

Fringe, Season 3, episode 8Entrada – had the two universe espionage come to an end and some of the most glaring and absurd plot points to date for the Fox TV series brought to bare. This episode even had its own TV Show trailer (posted below) and in no way does the episode live up to it.

The problems with the episode:

1.) Olivia 2 leaving Peter (John Noble) capable of telling everyone else that she is not the real Olivia (Anna Torv). I doubt she could pull the trigger on the Secretary’s son but why not incapacitate him for a few days instead of hours? Why not tie him down AND paralyze him? Hmmm.

2.) How does Broyles 2 (Lance Reddick) get Olivia 1 down two floors in a Department of Defense building after she had escaped once and all the guards know her face?

3.) How in God’s name did Broyles 2 get Olivia 1 out of the Department of Defense building and off Liberty Island after the alarm had been sounded? Come on J.J. What boat or helicopter would possibly be given clearance to leave during a security breach of the Department of Defense? How could they get out of the building let alone off the island? This entire plot point was skipped over and was immediately noticeable. Fraking sloppy, lazy writing at its finest.

4.) The scientists just leave the teleportation serum – the key to winning the war – in a unsecured location? Riiiight.

5.) How does Olivia 2 know what dose to give herself so that when she transports she can stay in her universe for good? Again, no explanation of any kind – she just knows the exact dose. Horrible writing. Plus, that serum might not be exactly the same aas Walter (John Noble)’s. It’s a first generation derivative of what is in her brain. How does she…never mind.

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*Big problem with Fringe, Season 3, episode 6, 6955 kHz – which is why I didn’t even bother to review it.

If the Vacuum device pieces were buried million of years ago – before the time of the dinosaurs – the pieces would not be where the Number Stations code and the The First Ones book said. The continents SHIFTED and BROKE APART during all that time which means the coordinates would not match. In addition, if the  Vacuum pieces are made out of metal, why were the pieces never detected by metal scans, surveys, or satellite swipes? There are no words to describe this plot point. I’m at a loss.

Maybe Fringe is getting what it deserves in a way by being moved to the “death slot” on Friday night in January 2011. I love the series but the holes are getting bigger and bigger.

  • Dylan565

    1) because she couldn’t cover her tracks. Peter’s absence would be noticed, Walter and company know where he was.

    2) How do you even know that it’s not on the same floor? He broke her out from the surgery room, and took her to an experiment room. They would be on the same floor, and they have shown the level of security in past episodes–with one (potentially two) guards on active patrol.

    3)Because he would know the new security routes. Just as Olivia knew the old ones and was able to get through in ‘The Abducted’.

    4) …It’s in the medical stations of the department of defense. Every door is secured, there are military guards everywhere. And if it weren’t for her knowledge of the experiments on her and cortexiphan, she wouldn’t have known at all what is was and would not have given it any attention.

    5) She doesn’t need any particular dose. In the past seasons they have explained that cortexiphan has effect only on children, and after immense and extended exposure to the drug. Also, she only needs the cortexiphan to power her–such as in the season 2 finale. As much cortexiphan as she can get.

    6) The space between the end of Pangaea and the end of dinosaurs is more than 150 million years. That’s more than enough time. Add to that the fact that the data was played over in different languages, and were not continuous. In ’6955kHz’ the people at the beginning seemed to track the occurrences, so it was not on a continuous loop. That requires someone to update the broadcasts. Those two bits were things the audience was meant to pick up on.

    There are plot holes. But these are not them. So try and use what information they have given you in the past to try and fill in the blanks, and if you can’t then it’s a plot hole. You obviously didn’t, because it took me less than three minutes to debunk your claims.

  • Dylan565

    Well, all but #3. I neglected to mention that while the theory side of their escape is provided, how they practically accomplished it isn’t. And it’s absence is noted.

    That would be the only one in that list though that could be perceived as a plot hole. The other five are explained.

  • Sestra15

    I wondered how the deprivation chamber worked so quickly, when she hardly had her senses deprived, hearing all the noise outside.

  • Anonymous

    She can’t do anything that risks permanently harming Peter. Walternate still needs him to use that machine. Killing Peter or putting him in a potentially permanent coma would prevent him from powering the doomsday machine.

  • Anonymous

    What makes you think that building was unsecured. She was entering with a high level government official who had security clearance. Broyles got her through all the security levels.

  • http://film-book.com/ Film-Book

    You debunked possibly one of them.

    1.) That was Olivia’s apartment, not Peter’s. Only Walter possibly knew where Peter might be. Peter could have very well have been at Harvard or at Massive Dynamic. Or his cell phone died. There are a myriad of reasons why they might not be able to get in touch with him. “Hello. Hello. Anybody home? Think McFly, think.” Biff, Back to the Future.

    2.) Because he says its two floors down and they take an elevator to get there. In Valen’s Name…

    Security rotations and procedures would have been changed after her first break out. They most certainly would have been changed after she broke back in. The water patrols were.

    3.) True but in a state of lock down of the Department of Defense no one would have been permitted to leave, especially if that reason for wanting to leave wasn’t a national emergency. And someone how had not been admitted/checked in through security – Olivia 1 – would never be permitted to waltz out during that time period. The guards would know her face: “She’s the one that broke out and broke back in.”

    4.) They walk right into the room without having to input any code. Every door in a building like that would have a different pass code, just like the CIA. Look at Massive Dynamic with the check points right when you get off the elevators. Where were those in the Department of Defense building? After all the repeated break outs and ins, the door codes would have been changed and the security stepped up. What, do you you think they would stay the same?

    5.) Ok, possibly.

    6.) But the numbers in the original signal never changed, those numbers were the original locations for the pieces. Those were the numbers they were trying to find out the meaning of. Those people would have to know the original location of the original land masses before the dinosaurs and then track the migration of those land masses precisely, precisely after they separated. If they weren’t, they would never discover the pieces. These people never did that nor did the FBI agents helping Walter. The people in the number stations had not even figured out the numbers were coordinates.

    You should have spent more time on your answers.

  • http://film-book.com/ Film-Book

    I missed that one. You are absolutely right.

  • http://film-book.com/ Film-Book

    I know. My point was that she could have tied him down long enough to make her escape. In combination with that drug, she would have had more than enough time.

  • http://film-book.com/ Film-Book

    He wouldn’t be able to. She would need her own separate clearance, just like he needs.

    If I were a senator, I couldn’t bring my family on a sight seeing tour through the CIA. Everybody that I brought in would have to be vetted and cleared by Security Section. Nor could I exit CIA with someone I had not brought in with me who didn’t have their own security pass/clearance.

    Broyles couldn’t walk anybody out of the Department of Defense if that person did not have a security ID. The security guards would ask: “How did this person get into the building. She is not in our system?”

  • Anonymous

    That is assuming their security protocol is the same as ours. As you can tell the FBI no longer exists over there so we don’t know what other security procedures have changed. I get the feeling Walternate and his crew have a special level of clearance.

  • http://film-book.com/ Film-Book

    True but their tech is better than ours which means their video surveillance and facial recognition software is better than ours as well.

    The existence of that gov agency has nothing to do with the security of the Department of the Defense on Liberty Island. How and why would it? The FBI is not a security company. They are the top tier of law enforcement in the US.

  • Isa

    Ugh, awful review. Fringe is getting better and better. Enjoy the ride, don’t try to find plot holes. Writing and acting have been top-notch so far this season. Continuity is fantastic, show has been much more balanced than season 1 and 2. Fringe has grown and find its own timing. I don’t even care to aswer your supposed “plot holes”, because it doesn’t even matter. That’s not the point.

    “Maybe Fringe is getting what it deserves in a way by being moved to the “death slot” on Friday night in January 2011″

    Ugh, really? And you say you love the show. I can only imagine what you want to shows you dislike… Fringe has never been so praised. Anna Torv has never been better. Most of the fans and critics say it’s the best season so far.

  • http://film-book.com/ Film-Book

    What was awful about it?

    I like the way they go back and forth between the too universes like every other fan and congratulate Torv on her performance this season.

    I didn’t try to find plot holes, they jumped out and found me. The acting and writing (per se) are top notch this season but the writers are taking the convenient way out of certain aspects of the episodes instead of a more complicated and thoughtful route.

    Of course you are not going to answer the “supposed” plot holes. You can’t.

    I do love the show. Have seen ever episode and own the blu-ray of the first season.

  • Anonymous

    My point is that we know security is handled differently over there. They have no FBI so someone else handles internal U.S. security. That other person/agency could have decided to install security systems differently than our government would. You can’t say that because our side has certain security clearance procedures that those are the same procedures over there.

  • http://film-book.com/ Film-Book

    My point was that the chances of the same person break out of a government building, breaking back inside then breaking back out again are extremely small if not impossible.

    Each time the break in or out happened, security procedures would be re-evaluated and altered to close those gaps in security. This would happen automatically. They would run tests, scenarios, and even mock break out and in attempts to test them. The DOD in that universe is where the most critical experiments and work to safe guard their universe takes place. They would not allow those holes in their security to exist once they had been exposed.

  • Isa

    Sorry about my mistakes, English is not my mother language.

    I think your review is not good because your focus is on things that are not essential to the show. The lack of security in the DOD facility was there in the first episode too. It was a necessary evil. Maybe I can’t aswer the plot holes, but that’s not the point. Fringe is getting better and better because characters and plotlines are much more developed now that they were in the first two seasons. Where in this review did you praise Torv? Or any other thing? I haven’t read other reviews written by you, btw. You didn’t review episode 3×06? I mean, really… It was a great episode.

    Here is what I think it’s a great review, from what I think it’s the weakest episode of season 3 (Amber): http://www.fringebloggers.com/fringe-review-3-05-amber-31422/

  • Bob

    Oh get a life, it’s only a TV show. Suspend your disbelief – switch your critical eye off for a bit and sit back and enjoy it, you’re spoiling it for yourself.

  • http://film-book.com/ Film-Book

    I know, I know. I did that with Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. I don’t know why i am having a harder time doing that with this show.

  • http://film-book.com/ Film-Book

    Holy Drak! (Sorry. Judge Dredd was on this weekend on the SyFy). Now that is what I call an extensive TV Show episode review. Wow. It must have taken him hours to put that monster together. You are right. The problems with the DOD were there for the beginning but they are not necessary evils. The problems could have been circumvented with intelligence and not mere convenience.

    Like Bob said though, I should not be turning a critical eye on this show. I should just go with the flow and that’s what I will do.

    Fringe has gotten better from the first season but Fox couldn’t care less. They are still moving it to the Friday “death slot” in January.

    Here is my review praising Torv and the show: http://film-book.com/6-reasons-why-the-new-television-program-fringe-is-cool/