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TV Review: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2, Ep. 22: Born to Run

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Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2, Ep. 22: Born to Run certainly ended this season of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles with a bang. Cameron protecting John from himself, like a watchdog, is a dynamic that has made their relationship one of the highlights of the show and it was for Born to Run as well. Cameron taking off her top and bra and telling John to get on top of her was such a fun moment and the sexual tension snowballed as the scene went on. When John stuck the knife in Cameron, I almost thought she would say: “You’ve penetrated me John.” Oh well. I also thought John was going to kiss her. His head just kept moving closer and closer.

When Mr. Ellison asked Cameron Ms. Weaver’s question: “Will you join us?”, Cameron’s “emotional” response to it was very interesting to see. Even John picked up on it.

The most exciting part of the episode for me was the jail house break out scene. Cameron really went to town with the shoty. It was complete BS that she never hit anyone since she has routinely killed threats to John coupled with computer targeting systems. I guess John ordered her off screen not to kill anyone. Isn’t it peculiar during the breakout scene that none of the escaping prisoners gawked at the bleeding, bullet hole-ridden girl walking down the hall with half her face blown off and a metallic red eye staring out of it. I know its an escape but the fact that NO ONE did a double take, extremely strange.

I did not really like the ending to Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2, Ep. 22: Born to Run but I can honestly say I did not see it coming. The best part is that the Reese Brothers are alive and so is Allison from Palmdale. John will get to meet his dad and the human Cameron was based on. What did you think of the season finale of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles? Did it live up to your expectations? What do you think of the concept of two computer systems opposing each other in the future?

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  • Johnny

    I found it to be one of the best season finales I have ever seen. The time travel completely surprised me and the ending was just amazing. I really do hope that they are going to have another season.

  • Johnny

    I found it to be one of the best season finales I have ever seen. The time travel completely surprised me and the ending was just amazing. I really do hope that they are going to have another season.

  • Boon Sing

    I’m watching this show all the way from Malaysia. No choice but to download it from torrents, leaving my computer on for all night. When I woke up, I see it being fully downloaded. Well, since I just got up, i was still a bit drowsy, so anyway, I decided to watch the previous episode ‘Adam Raised a Cain’ and then only ‘Born to Run’. By the time I finished the previous one, i started watching the finale. And I can only explain it using one word. AWESOME!!!! They MUST make a season 3. We need to know what happens next. Does John Connor exist in the future? What year is it? Where’s John Henry along with Cameron’s chip?

  • Boon Sing

    I’m watching this show all the way from Malaysia. No choice but to download it from torrents, leaving my computer on for all night. When I woke up, I see it being fully downloaded. Well, since I just got up, i was still a bit drowsy, so anyway, I decided to watch the previous episode ‘Adam Raised a Cain’ and then only ‘Born to Run’. By the time I finished the previous one, i started watching the finale. And I can only explain it using one word. AWESOME!!!! They MUST make a season 3. We need to know what happens next. Does John Connor exist in the future? What year is it? Where’s John Henry along with Cameron’s chip?

  • I was very entertained by the season finale as well. The time travel came a little bit too out of no where for my taste. I hope we get a second season as well.

    Why would Sarah let John out of her sight? Why would she let him go to the future? It made no sense.

    Have you signed the petition to save the show?

  • I was very entertained by the season finale as well. The time travel came a little bit too out of no where for my taste. I hope we get a second season as well.

    Why would Sarah let John out of her sight? Why would she let him go to the future? It made no sense.

    Have you signed the petition to save the show?

  • It was good.

    You might be able to watch TSCC episodes on Hulu.

    John Connor does not exist in the future John traveled to. That is what is great about it.

    Since John is not running The Resistance, who is?

  • It was good.

    You might be able to watch TSCC episodes on Hulu.

    John Connor does not exist in the future John traveled to. That is what is great about it.

    Since John is not running The Resistance, who is?

  • Yeah. That cliffhanger was out of leftfield. I think they wanted to be different and tried to surprise the hardcore T-heads by ending with a “John Connor is NOT the leader of the worldwide resistance and last hope for mankind. ”

    I had the same feeling when I watched that Cameron/John scene.
    You’re doing it with your Terminator cyborg sister!!!

    Is she fully functional?

    the jaded viewers last blog post..Invitation Only (Trailer)

  • Yeah. That cliffhanger was out of leftfield. I think they wanted to be different and tried to surprise the hardcore T-heads by ending with a “John Connor is NOT the leader of the worldwide resistance and last hope for mankind. ”

    I had the same feeling when I watched that Cameron/John scene.
    You’re doing it with your Terminator cyborg sister!!!

    Is she fully functional?

    the jaded viewers last blog post..Invitation Only (Trailer)

  • That is what I always wondered. Is she fully functional like Data, programed in multiple techniques?

  • That is what I always wondered. Is she fully functional like Data, programed in multiple techniques?

  • 790

    I think Sarah let John go so that she could take care of what was left of J Henry’s mainframe meanwhile she also told the FBI that John was dead this is a temporary way to make this a reality.
    She obviously expects him to return to 2009.

    What I’m not sure of is the version of Cameron in the future,,, she was petting the dog this means that her model is using a ceramic coated EndoSkeleton or she a human in that timeline/reality.

    The chip could have been used to upgrade John Henry’s program and could still be in the present timeline hooked up to the mainframe.
    I’m assuming that the T-1000 female went looking for him when she and John arrived in the future.

    If the show continues John will have to bring the other Cameron with him to the past if she’s (Glau) going to stay on the show as her previous model was fubar.

    great finale !!!! I agree one of the best I’ve seen. The slow motion reaction by Connor was very well done. 🙂

  • 790

    I think Sarah let John go so that she could take care of what was left of J Henry’s mainframe meanwhile she also told the FBI that John was dead this is a temporary way to make this a reality.
    She obviously expects him to return to 2009.

    What I’m not sure of is the version of Cameron in the future,,, she was petting the dog this means that her model is using a ceramic coated EndoSkeleton or she a human in that timeline/reality.

    The chip could have been used to upgrade John Henry’s program and could still be in the present timeline hooked up to the mainframe.
    I’m assuming that the T-1000 female went looking for him when she and John arrived in the future.

    If the show continues John will have to bring the other Cameron with him to the past if she’s (Glau) going to stay on the show as her previous model was fubar.

    great finale !!!! I agree one of the best I’ve seen. The slow motion reaction by Connor was very well done. 🙂

  • Innocent

    @ filmbook:

    maybe you haven’t seen the other episodes of season 2 (it was the second season which ended BTW) or the 9 of season 1? Sarah believes that she has cancer and that she won’t be able to protect her son much longer. She tried to pass the job to Charlie, her las lover and a father figure to John but he got killed in an assault by Skynet’s agents. In any case she had to face the simple fact that she would be of no use in a future where she’d die quickly without any treatment available.

  • Innocent

    @ filmbook:

    maybe you haven’t seen the other episodes of season 2 (it was the second season which ended BTW) or the 9 of season 1? Sarah believes that she has cancer and that she won’t be able to protect her son much longer. She tried to pass the job to Charlie, her las lover and a father figure to John but he got killed in an assault by Skynet’s agents. In any case she had to face the simple fact that she would be of no use in a future where she’d die quickly without any treatment available.

  • 790

    Ever since T3, when Sarah Connor died of Cancer, I always figured that she contracted the disease when the original T-1000 spiked her through the shoulder in T2,,,

    The T-1000 was the cause,,,

  • 790

    Ever since T3, when Sarah Connor died of Cancer, I always figured that she contracted the disease when the original T-1000 spiked her through the shoulder in T2,,,

    The T-1000 was the cause,,,

  • I have seen every episode multiple times. You may be right about why she didn’t go but why would she let John go? Her life is devoted to John’s protection. And why would she let him go after a chip for a machine she thinks is dangerous of all things? It made no sense. She didn’t even know “when” he was going to.

  • I have seen every episode multiple times. You may be right about why she didn’t go but why would she let John go? Her life is devoted to John’s protection. And why would she let him go after a chip for a machine she thinks is dangerous of all things? It made no sense. She didn’t even know “when” he was going to.

  • Allison in the future is still alive. That is the girl you are seeing. Remember the episode Allison from Palmdale.

    The T-1000 with John disappeared because if she was with John, the dogs would have sniffed her out immediately.

    “If the show continues John will have to bring the other Cameron with him to the past if she’s (Glau) going to stay on the show as her previous model was fubar.”
    No he won’t. He just has to track down the chip in the future and use bubble-tech to send him back to the point he left.

    I don’t think the T-1000 was the cause of the cancer. Sarah was given cancer and killed off screen because Linda Hamilton did not want to reprise her role in T3.

  • Allison in the future is still alive. That is the girl you are seeing. Remember the episode Allison from Palmdale.

    The T-1000 with John disappeared because if she was with John, the dogs would have sniffed her out immediately.

    “If the show continues John will have to bring the other Cameron with him to the past if she’s (Glau) going to stay on the show as her previous model was fubar.”
    No he won’t. He just has to track down the chip in the future and use bubble-tech to send him back to the point he left.

    I don’t think the T-1000 was the cause of the cancer. Sarah was given cancer and killed off screen because Linda Hamilton did not want to reprise her role in T3.

  • 790

    No I didn’t see much of season 2, I actually tuned in to the last episode and I didn’t even realize it was the last episode til afterwards.

    I watched the opening Season 2 episode and a few of the later ones that dealt with Sarah in the mental ward. But that’s about it. I’m going to buy the season on dvd.

    True about Hamilton/T3. However I make the argument that the T-1000 was the cause after the fact of T3. The T-1000 would be somewhat radioactive and would have intentionally left a few of its atoms behind to kill Sarah slowly. Remember she was spiked a few times in T2,,, and she did die of Leukemia. A blood cancer.
    Just my opinion,,

    So there’s a real life Alison (Summer Glau) human?? What the F, on why Cameron would look like her ???????

    Not sure why Sarah would just let John go,besides taking the heat off him with the cops, perhaps she was finally allowing him a chance to do it his way?? I guess will never know.

  • 790

    No I didn’t see much of season 2, I actually tuned in to the last episode and I didn’t even realize it was the last episode til afterwards.

    I watched the opening Season 2 episode and a few of the later ones that dealt with Sarah in the mental ward. But that’s about it. I’m going to buy the season on dvd.

    True about Hamilton/T3. However I make the argument that the T-1000 was the cause after the fact of T3. The T-1000 would be somewhat radioactive and would have intentionally left a few of its atoms behind to kill Sarah slowly. Remember she was spiked a few times in T2,,, and she did die of Leukemia. A blood cancer.
    Just my opinion,,

    So there’s a real life Alison (Summer Glau) human?? What the F, on why Cameron would look like her ???????

    Not sure why Sarah would just let John go,besides taking the heat off him with the cops, perhaps she was finally allowing him a chance to do it his way?? I guess will never know.

  • The finale left my mouth agape! Didn’t see the time travel coming, but I’m psyched that we may learn more about Allison from Palmdale. The computer vs computer concept has lots of potential.

    I was wondering why more prisoners weren’t freaking out more at Cameron. I mean they’re hard, but nobody’s that hard.

    “You’ve penetrated me John.” They should have totally had that line in scene!

    Reel Whores last blog post..MMM: Cause My Knots Don’t Fit!

  • The finale left my mouth agape! Didn’t see the time travel coming, but I’m psyched that we may learn more about Allison from Palmdale. The computer vs computer concept has lots of potential.

    I was wondering why more prisoners weren’t freaking out more at Cameron. I mean they’re hard, but nobody’s that hard.

    “You’ve penetrated me John.” They should have totally had that line in scene!

    Reel Whores last blog post..MMM: Cause My Knots Don’t Fit!

  • Allison, Allison.

    “I was wondering why more prisoners weren’t freaking out more at Cameron. I mean they’re hard, but nobody’s that hard.”
    Logic mistake on the part of the screenwriters.

    Glad you liked my suggested line. It would have been very cool.

  • Allison, Allison.

    “I was wondering why more prisoners weren’t freaking out more at Cameron. I mean they’re hard, but nobody’s that hard.”
    Logic mistake on the part of the screenwriters.

    Glad you liked my suggested line. It would have been very cool.

  • Fanz AL

    I hav been wondering, at the ending, the time travel thing, why it suddenly appeared there?? It should like what had happened in season 1 when they escaped with the time travel machine, but there’s no machine similar to that.Kinda blur…
    The ending really surprise me a lot, and i can’t imagine what will be the next thing to happen.Wish the next season out ASAP.Cant wait to watch it.

  • Fanz AL

    I hav been wondering, at the ending, the time travel thing, why it suddenly appeared there?? It should like what had happened in season 1 when they escaped with the time travel machine, but there’s no machine similar to that.Kinda blur…
    The ending really surprise me a lot, and i can’t imagine what will be the next thing to happen.Wish the next season out ASAP.Cant wait to watch it.

  • Lew1

    That finale epp ROCKED. I have to be honest I only really watch the show for Summer Glau (Cameron) But that finale threw a curve ball. I really hope Fox don’t do to TTSCC like what they did to FireFly.
    I Also hope that if they do ma ke a 3rd seasson we se more from Allison from Palmdale. Rember in the epp Allison from Palmdale When the metal kills her and takes her identerty that must be why john chose that metal to reprogram because it is Camron from the past? So does this mean that John does become the leader even though know one knows who he is yet.

  • Lewis

    That finale epp ROCKED. I have to be honest I only really watch the show for Summer Glau (Cameron) But that finale threw a curve ball. I really hope Fox don’t do to TTSCC like what they did to FireFly.
    I Also hope that if they do ma ke a 3rd seasson we se more from Allison from Palmdale. Rember in the epp Allison from Palmdale When the metal kills her and takes her identerty that must be why john chose that metal to reprogram because it is Camron from the past? So does this mean that John does become the leader even though know one knows who he is yet.

  • My guess is many people watch the show solely for Summer.

    I hope TSCC does not get Firefly’d either. If we get Season 3, More Allison is guaranteed. 🙂

    I wonder how they knew the Allison that came back to the base was a Terminator. I am guessing the dogs.

    John is just an average guy in the future who is good with computers and looking for a chip and who has an alliance with a T-1000. It will be interesting how that all plays out.

  • My guess is many people watch the show solely for Summer.

    I hope TSCC does not get Firefly’d either. If we get Season 3, More Allison is guaranteed. 🙂

    I wonder how they knew the Allison that came back to the base was a Terminator. I am guessing the dogs.

    John is just an average guy in the future who is good with computers and looking for a chip and who has an alliance with a T-1000. It will be interesting how that all plays out.

  • Lew1

    There is now so much more they can do with the series. I felt that jon was always being held back. What i ment was though At the moment we are led to believe that Jon Connor is not the leader right.
    So does that mean he did not said camron back. If you remember in T3 it was Jons girlfriend that sent Arnold back to pertect him. Therefor perhaps Jon never sent Cameron back perhaps it was Riley because she is still alive in the future right? Or mayby jon becomes friends with Allison then when she is killed thats why he sends the metal back because he rembers her as camron?

  • Lewis

    There is now so much more they can do with the series. I felt that jon was always being held back. What i ment was though At the moment we are led to believe that Jon Connor is not the leader right.
    So does that mean he did not said camron back. If you remember in T3 it was Jons girlfriend that sent Arnold back to pertect him. Therefor perhaps Jon never sent Cameron back perhaps it was Riley because she is still alive in the future right? Or mayby jon becomes friends with Allison then when she is killed thats why he sends the metal back because he rembers her as camron?

  • When John was taken to the future, the future was changed. He is not the leader of the Resistance because he is not there in the past to become their leader. Someone else is the leader now or maybe multiple people. That is where you are getting confused. The events in Terminator 3 have not happened and may never happen.

  • When John was taken to the future, the future was changed. He is not the leader of the Resistance because he is not there in the past to become their leader. Someone else is the leader now or maybe multiple people. That is where you are getting confused. The events in Terminator 3 have not happened and may never happen.

  • Lew1

    Ok now I see because he has been taken out of the past it means that the future has been altered. Got you so because he went forward in time it ment that he never become the resistence leader. Therfor John Connor is now a knowone in there eyes. So if Allison is still alive does that mean that there is no cameron or does it mean that her being kidnapped still may happen.

  • Lewis

    Ok now I see because he has been taken out of the past it means that the future has been altered. Got you so because he went forward in time it ment that he never become the resistence leader. Therfor John Connor is now a knowone in there eyes. So if Allison is still alive does that mean that there is no cameron or does it mean that her being kidnapped still may happen.

  • Cameron may not be in the past anymore, the present with Sarah, until John goes back in time with her chip and the future resets and goes back to normal.

    Good question about Allison. I had not even thought of that. You should read Robocop vs Terminator. Some good time paradoxes in there are well.

  • Cameron may not be in the past anymore, the present with Sarah, until John goes back in time with her chip and the future resets and goes back to normal.

    Good question about Allison. I had not even thought of that. You should read Robocop vs Terminator. Some good time paradoxes in there are well.

  • Lew1

    so what you are saying is that because there is an Allison in the future that means there is no Cameron yet. So what i Feel will happen is john will save Allison when she gets taken prisoner so that there is no longer a Camron. But then if Kyle Ryess is still alive that means that he has not gone back in time to save sarah Right. So say for instance if he does not go back the sarah dies. Do you think that means Jon will have to choose between his mum or Dad? weather to send Kyle back in time to his death. Or have him stay and Sarah Die. Is that how it Works?

  • Lewis

    so what you are saying is that because there is an Allison in the future that means there is no Cameron yet. So what i Feel will happen is john will save Allison when she gets taken prisoner so that there is no longer a Camron. But then if Kyle Ryess is still alive that means that he has not gone back in time to save sarah Right. So say for instance if he does not go back the sarah dies. Do you think that means Jon will have to choose between his mum or Dad? weather to send Kyle back in time to his death. Or have him stay and Sarah Die. Is that how it Works?

  • Lew1

    Also i see what you mean its all going to be weather he gets the chip and sets the future back on course. Or leaves it and stays with Allison. There better be a seasson 3

  • Lewis

    Also i see what you mean its all going to be weather he gets the chip and sets the future back on course. Or leaves it and stays with Allison. There better be a seasson 3

  • Lew1

    Thought experiments can also yield interesting paradoxes. The grandfather paradox, for example, would arise if a time traveler were to kill his own grandfather before his father was conceived, thereby preventing his own birth. Under the ‘traditional’ definition of a paradox, the Grandfather Paradox (and other similar situations) are typically thought to cause spacetime to rip itself apart under the strain of attempting to resolve an ‘unresolvable’ conclusion (ie, the time traveller killed his grandfather, therefore the time traveller wouldn’t be born, therefore his grandfather could not have been killed, therefore he (and the time traveller) are still alive – and so on). However, if the many worlds theory is correct, the death of the man does not cause the father of the time traveller and the time traveller to never be born because he is an alternate version of the grandfather. J
    ust thought you would all like this. Now put it into the sence if Jon oes not send Kyle Back. he would still be alive because he is an alternitive vertion of himself

  • Lewis

    Thought experiments can also yield interesting paradoxes. The grandfather paradox, for example, would arise if a time traveler were to kill his own grandfather before his father was conceived, thereby preventing his own birth. Under the ‘traditional’ definition of a paradox, the Grandfather Paradox (and other similar situations) are typically thought to cause spacetime to rip itself apart under the strain of attempting to resolve an ‘unresolvable’ conclusion (ie, the time traveller killed his grandfather, therefore the time traveller wouldn’t be born, therefore his grandfather could not have been killed, therefore he (and the time traveller) are still alive – and so on). However, if the many worlds theory is correct, the death of the man does not cause the father of the time traveller and the time traveller to never be born because he is an alternate version of the grandfather. J
    ust thought you would all like this. Now put it into the sence if Jon oes not send Kyle Back. he would still be alive because he is an alternitive vertion of himself

  • 790

    Summer is hot but I don’t watch the show for her.

    Also, rather then read the comic version of Terminator vs Robo, there’s a novel series that came out a few years back that is full of back/story on post T2 activity with the Connors. They even meet up with the Body builder stuntman who (Skynet) eventually uses as the model for 101.
    I don’t remember the author but you should be able to check it out.

  • 790

    Summer is hot but I don’t watch the show for her.

    Also, rather then read the comic version of Terminator vs Robo, there’s a novel series that came out a few years back that is full of back/story on post T2 activity with the Connors. They even meet up with the Body builder stuntman who (Skynet) eventually uses as the model for 101.
    I don’t remember the author but you should be able to check it out.

  • Lew1
  • Lewis
  • 790

    Hang around Lewis, as the discussion on Terminator Salvation is about to begin.

    😉

  • 790

    Hang around Lewis, as the discussion on Terminator Salvation is about to begin.

    😉

  • Lew1

    The best thing about season two for me now though is all the directions they can now go in. I can not wait to see what will happen between Allison and john because thats where it is going to get good. 790 I see your point about Sarah and how she may of got cancer it really does make sense. Again there are so many ways this can play out and i hope that the writters go in depth and go for substance not just explosions. But I really hope there is a season 3.

    if Kyle Ryess is still alive that means that he has not gone back in time to save sarah Right. So say for instance if he does not go back the sarah dies. Do you think that means Jon will have to choose between his mum or Dad? weather to send Kyle back in time to his death. Or have him stay and Sarah Die. Is that how it Works? Could this Happen?

  • Lewis

    The best thing about season two for me now though is all the directions they can now go in. I can not wait to see what will happen between Allison and john because thats where it is going to get good. 790 I see your point about Sarah and how she may of got cancer it really does make sense. Again there are so many ways this can play out and i hope that the writters go in depth and go for substance not just explosions. But I really hope there is a season 3.

    if Kyle Ryess is still alive that means that he has not gone back in time to save sarah Right. So say for instance if he does not go back the sarah dies. Do you think that means Jon will have to choose between his mum or Dad? weather to send Kyle back in time to his death. Or have him stay and Sarah Die. Is that how it Works? Could this Happen?

  • Kyle has not gone back in time yet because John was not there to send him.

    John can not send anybody back in time in the future he is now in. He has no rank and he is not part of The Resistance.

    Nice intro for multiple paradox theories BTW. Wow. Heavy.

  • Kyle has not gone back in time yet because John was not there to send him.

    John can not send anybody back in time in the future he is now in. He has no rank and he is not part of The Resistance.

    Nice intro for multiple paradox theories BTW. Wow. Heavy.

  • Lew1

    Yeah sorry did not mean to go that deep Thats what i get for studying philosophy don’t mean to keep going on about it but none of my friends watched the show there loss I know. so that means Sarah will die if Kyle does not go back right?
    Also the new Terminator film with Christian Bale how the heck will that fit in. Do you think they could be holding off the 3rd season so they can see the film and keep the series on the same track as the film.

  • Lewis

    Yeah sorry did not mean to go that deep Thats what i get for studying philosophy don’t mean to keep going on about it but none of my friends watched the show there loss I know. so that means Sarah will die if Kyle does not go back right?
    Also the new Terminator film with Christian Bale how the heck will that fit in. Do you think they could be holding off the 3rd season so they can see the film and keep the series on the same track as the film.

  • Go deep Lewis, please. It makes the thread better.

    They are already past, in the past , where Terminators are sent after Sarah. If they were in the 80’s when John went forward in the future, Sarah might still be in danger.

    Terminator Salvation has nothing to do with the show. If they were smart at the beginning, Cameron, the show writers and McG would have all sat down at a table and talked about all the upcoming projects to make sure they flowed into each other properly. That never happened.

  • Go deep Lewis, please. It makes the thread better.

    They are already past, in the past , where Terminators are sent after Sarah. If they were in the 80’s when John went forward in the future, Sarah might still be in danger.

    Terminator Salvation has nothing to do with the show. If they were smart at the beginning, Cameron, the show writers and McG would have all sat down at a table and talked about all the upcoming projects to make sure they flowed into each other properly. That never happened.

  • Lew1

    Got you so even thought Kyle is still alive the events in terminator one have already happend. so the past is not affected only the future will change meaning that jon did not become the resistance leader because he jumped through time meaning he missed a key event that would have turnt him into the resistance leader. I was also looking at the TTSCC websight and they have a page for season 3 where they want people to post what they want for season 3 so hopefuly it means that there will be a 3rd season. i only just remberd as well thats how Derek knew Camron because he knew allison“Demon Hand”: Derek Reese: You might have fooled them, but not me. I know you. Cameron Phillips: I know you, too. So he knew Alison died and that The metal was reprogramed into camron. It also makes me think that Camron is from skynet so that in order for skynet to be built jon has to survive thats why she is helping him. That is a popular view. But i think that more of alisons memorys have been imprinted onto Camrons chip so Jon and alison must get close and thats why Camron is beside her self with jon because of the memorys. Perhaps there is more to that mimicry process than we know. Perhaps the interviews are just the icing on the cake. Remember back to the mysterious basement room in “Dungeons and Dragons”? What if there is some sort of scanning going on that attempts to imprint a human’s personality onto an infiltration unit?.

  • Lewis

    Got you so even thought Kyle is still alive the events in terminator one have already happend. so the past is not affected only the future will change meaning that jon did not become the resistance leader because he jumped through time meaning he missed a key event that would have turnt him into the resistance leader. I was also looking at the TTSCC websight and they have a page for season 3 where they want people to post what they want for season 3 so hopefuly it means that there will be a 3rd season. i only just remberd as well thats how Derek knew Camron because he knew allison“Demon Hand”: Derek Reese: You might have fooled them, but not me. I know you. Cameron Phillips: I know you, too. So he knew Alison died and that The metal was reprogramed into camron. It also makes me think that Camron is from skynet so that in order for skynet to be built jon has to survive thats why she is helping him. That is a popular view. But i think that more of alisons memorys have been imprinted onto Camrons chip so Jon and alison must get close and thats why Camron is beside her self with jon because of the memorys. Perhaps there is more to that mimicry process than we know. Perhaps the interviews are just the icing on the cake. Remember back to the mysterious basement room in “Dungeons and Dragons”? What if there is some sort of scanning going on that attempts to imprint a human’s personality onto an infiltration unit?.

  • “Got you so even thought Kyle is still alive the events in terminator one have already happend. so the past is not affected only the future will change meaning that jon did not become the resistance leader because he jumped through time meaning he missed a key event that would have turnt him into the resistance leader.”

    Exactly.

    I did not know about the Season 3 segment of the official site but I will be sure post my ideas for Season 3 there.

    “It also makes me think that Camron is from skynet so that in order for skynet to be built jon has to survive thats why she is helping him.”
    Interesting.

    “Dungeons and Dragons”
    They never explained what was going on in that basement. One of the best episodes and they went no where with it. I’m putting that on the Season 3 broad. I always thought something lewd like Cameron was down there testing out her sexual prowess or something because when Derek escapes the house and gets back to base, he recognizes Cameron as metal immediately. He had to have seen her somewhere. The Basement. When he first sees Cameron in the past and he is injured on the table, he doesn’t want her to touch him. Why? The Basement.

  • “Got you so even thought Kyle is still alive the events in terminator one have already happend. so the past is not affected only the future will change meaning that jon did not become the resistance leader because he jumped through time meaning he missed a key event that would have turnt him into the resistance leader.”

    Exactly.

    I did not know about the Season 3 segment of the official site but I will be sure post my ideas for Season 3 there.

    “It also makes me think that Camron is from skynet so that in order for skynet to be built jon has to survive thats why she is helping him.”
    Interesting.

    “Dungeons and Dragons”
    They never explained what was going on in that basement. One of the best episodes and they went no where with it. I’m putting that on the Season 3 broad. I always thought something lewd like Cameron was down there testing out her sexual prowess or something because when Derek escapes the house and gets back to base, he recognizes Cameron as metal immediately. He had to have seen her somewhere. The Basement. When he first sees Cameron in the past and he is injured on the table, he doesn’t want her to touch him. Why? The Basement.

  • 790

    The TSCC uses time travel as a gimmick where the first 3 Terminator films used it as a plot device.

    You can discuss the elements and time paradox’s but they have turned TSCC into “The Time Tunnel”. The only reason I was into the season 2 finale was to see what there going to do next. It was such a nuke the fridge moment I couldn’t look away.

    Lewis I would be happy to discuss Terminator Salvation. I have a lot of probs with Mcg’s vision and where he’s taking the franchise.

  • 790

    The TSCC uses time travel as a gimmick where the first 3 Terminator films used it as a plot device.

    You can discuss the elements and time paradox’s but they have turned TSCC into “The Time Tunnel”. The only reason I was into the season 2 finale was to see what there going to do next. It was such a nuke the fridge moment I couldn’t look away.

    Lewis I would be happy to discuss Terminator Salvation. I have a lot of probs with Mcg’s vision and where he’s taking the franchise.

  • Lew1

    I do not know anything about the new film but if you would exsplain it that would be helpful. I do want to see the new film but i wish that the film would follow the same narative as the season just to keep it all in order.
    Regarding Camron and Derek i think your right it must have been her in the basement and i hope that the reason they went know where with that episode is because they are saving it for season 3. (we can only hope) It would exsplain his hate for her i thought it was because he just hated metal but do you remeber in Dungeons and Dragons when it flashes to the future and Derek is at the base asking where Kyle is and then he see Camron and shouts ”Metal” and goes to shoot mayby thats because he knew that the metal was the one from the basement. Question though In the episode Alison from Parmdale When the metal is interviewing her does it take her form then.

  • Lewis

    I do not know anything about the new film but if you would exsplain it that would be helpful. I do want to see the new film but i wish that the film would follow the same narative as the season just to keep it all in order.
    Regarding Camron and Derek i think your right it must have been her in the basement and i hope that the reason they went know where with that episode is because they are saving it for season 3. (we can only hope) It would exsplain his hate for her i thought it was because he just hated metal but do you remeber in Dungeons and Dragons when it flashes to the future and Derek is at the base asking where Kyle is and then he see Camron and shouts ”Metal” and goes to shoot mayby thats because he knew that the metal was the one from the basement. Question though In the episode Alison from Parmdale When the metal is interviewing her does it take her form then.

  • Allison could have been captured and emulated right before Derek was captured, imprisoned in that house and sent to the basement.

    Allison and Derek might have never known each other in that time line. The Resistance is a big movement. Not everyone knows each.

  • Allison could have been captured and emulated right before Derek was captured, imprisoned in that house and sent to the basement.

    Allison and Derek might have never known each other in that time line. The Resistance is a big movement. Not everyone knows each.

  • Lew1

    Could be. So he may of knew camron because she was the one in the basement.
    Good point It did not even cross my mind that alison and Derek may not have known each other on that time line. But when we said that the past is the past, Derek jumped through time and ended up getting killed so why does he exsist in the future if he died in the past. Or does it mean that all the events that derek was involved in also cease to exsist. Because he is still alive but does not remember jon but he should because he was in the past with Jon so it is not a case that because Jon jumped through time he missed seeing Derek. So does that mean that even though Derek died in the past young Derek still grew up but without knowing Jon and becasue jon jumped through time it ment he did not become the leader so there was no possible way of them seeing each other.

  • Lewis

    Could be. So he may of knew camron because she was the one in the basement.
    Good point It did not even cross my mind that alison and Derek may not have known each other on that time line. But when we said that the past is the past, Derek jumped through time and ended up getting killed so why does he exsist in the future if he died in the past. Or does it mean that all the events that derek was involved in also cease to exsist. Because he is still alive but does not remember jon but he should because he was in the past with Jon so it is not a case that because Jon jumped through time he missed seeing Derek. So does that mean that even though Derek died in the past young Derek still grew up but without knowing Jon and becasue jon jumped through time it ment he did not become the leader so there was no possible way of them seeing each other.

  • “So does that mean that even though Derek died in the past young Derek still grew up but without knowing Jon and becasue jon jumped through time it ment he did not become the leader so there was no possible way of them seeing each other.”

    Exactly.

    Derek’s younger self, and Kyle’s, are still alive in the past which is why they are present in the future.

  • “So does that mean that even though Derek died in the past young Derek still grew up but without knowing Jon and becasue jon jumped through time it ment he did not become the leader so there was no possible way of them seeing each other.”

    Exactly.

    Derek’s younger self, and Kyle’s, are still alive in the past which is why they are present in the future.

  • Lew1

    GOT YOU. So Really time travel creates a alternitive vertion. Because old SiFi would have you believe that if you time travel and die then it erase’s you all together. But when derek died I Thought thatwas it but because Younger Derek was still alive it meant he would still be alive. Was it me though but on the last episode when jon saw Kyle they looked at each other as if they had seen each other before?
    That what I love about the show is there are so many directions that it can go in and i am upset to say I think I have run out of things to ask about.
    Would you know if there is a page about FireFly or Serenity. Or if I or someone could start one so I can keep writing. This is so much better then work .

  • Lewis

    GOT YOU. So Really time travel creates a alternitive vertion. Because old SiFi would have you believe that if you time travel and die then it erase’s you all together. But when derek died I Thought thatwas it but because Younger Derek was still alive it meant he would still be alive. Was it me though but on the last episode when jon saw Kyle they looked at each other as if they had seen each other before?
    That what I love about the show is there are so many directions that it can go in and i am upset to say I think I have run out of things to ask about.
    Would you know if there is a page about FireFly or Serenity. Or if I or someone could start one so I can keep writing. This is so much better then work .

  • “GOT YOU. So Really time travel creates a alternitive vertion.”
    That is not what I said. Time travel alters the time line. It depends who is going where.

    My Firefly post:
    http://film-book.com/tv-programs-that-deserved-better-firefly/

    Also check out Top Posts at the top of the page.

  • “GOT YOU. So Really time travel creates a alternitive vertion.”
    That is not what I said. Time travel alters the time line. It depends who is going where.

    My Firefly post:
    http://film-book.com/tv-programs-that-deserved-better-firefly/

    Also check out Top Posts at the top of the page.

  • Lew1

    Oh sorry know that was what i Meant when I was rambling on about paradox’s. yes the time line alters but if that was the case then once your dead your dead so even though it was the grown up Derek who died it must mean that he is an alternet vertion of himself because thats the only way that younger Derek can still be alive. Like a ripple effect you could say.

    Thanks for the link

  • Lewis

    Oh sorry know that was what i Meant when I was rambling on about paradox’s. yes the time line alters but if that was the case then once your dead your dead so even though it was the grown up Derek who died it must mean that he is an alternet vertion of himself because thats the only way that younger Derek can still be alive. Like a ripple effect you could say.

    Thanks for the link

  • 790

    Lewis, you should pickup the dvd/film “Primer”.

    Its a time travel story.

  • 790

    Lewis, you should pickup the dvd/film “Primer”.

    Its a time travel story.

  • CarlB

    If they get a Season 3, I hope they don’t cast it in the future. If they do, it will be a short season and the last for sure. I like Summer Glau the cyborg with human tendencies. I don’t have any interest in Summer Glau the human girly girl in the future as a girlfriend interest of some teenage John Connor. Without Sarah (Lena) this show will just be another Gossip Girl. I love the show, but I hate where they left it and where it appears they will take off from if they get a 3rd season.

  • CarlB

    If they get a Season 3, I hope they don’t cast it in the future. If they do, it will be a short season and the last for sure. I like Summer Glau the cyborg with human tendencies. I don’t have any interest in Summer Glau the human girly girl in the future as a girlfriend interest of some teenage John Connor. Without Sarah (Lena) this show will just be another Gossip Girl. I love the show, but I hate where they left it and where it appears they will take off from if they get a 3rd season.

  • Lew1

    Primer i will pick that up. I think that if there is a season 3 it will jump back and forward with jon in the future and sarah in the present. I think it will be clever if they don’t uses camron and use Alison because it gives the auidence chance to connect to Alison and then people will care more about Camron. I think where they left off is great as we were disscusing above there are so many ways they can take the show. I get what you are saying Summer Glau is great as a robot but i think it will be Interesting to go a bit deeper with Alison and see how she interacts with jon.

  • Lewis

    Primer i will pick that up. I think that if there is a season 3 it will jump back and forward with jon in the future and sarah in the present. I think it will be clever if they don’t uses camron and use Alison because it gives the auidence chance to connect to Alison and then people will care more about Camron. I think where they left off is great as we were disscusing above there are so many ways they can take the show. I get what you are saying Summer Glau is great as a robot but i think it will be Interesting to go a bit deeper with Alison and see how she interacts with jon.

  • You’ve really got to pay attention watching that film.

  • You’ve really got to pay attention watching that film.

  • They will probably split it, some eps in the future, some in the past. They will probably split the eps themselves that way as well so Lena will be there, don’t worry.

    I don’t think Allison will be a girlfriend interest as much as she will be a curiosity to John. By learning about her he will learn more about Cameron and all that she kept from him about the girl she looks like and their past together.

  • They will probably split it, some eps in the future, some in the past. They will probably split the eps themselves that way as well so Lena will be there, don’t worry.

    I don’t think Allison will be a girlfriend interest as much as she will be a curiosity to John. By learning about her he will learn more about Cameron and all that she kept from him about the girl she looks like and their past together.

  • Pick up Time Crimes as well. Its supposed to be good.

    “I think that if there is a season 3 it will jump back and forward with jon in the future and sarah in the present.”
    I agree.

    “I think it will be clever if they don’t uses camron and use Alison because it gives the auidence chance to connect to Alison and then people will care more about Camron.”
    Hopefully the screenwriters are thinking something similar.

  • Pick up Time Crimes as well. Its supposed to be good.

    “I think that if there is a season 3 it will jump back and forward with jon in the future and sarah in the present.”
    I agree.

    “I think it will be clever if they don’t uses camron and use Alison because it gives the auidence chance to connect to Alison and then people will care more about Camron.”
    Hopefully the screenwriters are thinking something similar.

  • Lew1

    We can only hope. I had a look at Primer damm that is a complex story. I thought the paradox in TTSCC was good but primer is on a whole new level of confusing. Again though this talk about season 3 could all just be pie in the sky as I have heard that they might not even be making another season. But I think the people that are saying that are being very short sighted. I feel that season Two of any season is never that good because they try somthing different and somtimes it does not pay off. Im not saying i hated season 2 but I think they could have done more with it. But boy if there is a season 3 its gonna rock.

  • Lewis

    We can only hope. I had a look at Primer damm that is a complex story. I thought the paradox in TTSCC was good but primer is on a whole new level of confusing. Again though this talk about season 3 could all just be pie in the sky as I have heard that they might not even be making another season. But I think the people that are saying that are being very short sighted. I feel that season Two of any season is never that good because they try somthing different and somtimes it does not pay off. Im not saying i hated season 2 but I think they could have done more with it. But boy if there is a season 3 its gonna rock.

  • Your right. Some eps in Season 2 were hit or miss but when it was good, it was really good.

  • Your right. Some eps in Season 2 were hit or miss but when it was good, it was really good.

  • Lew1

    Thats what I mean i see some shows and they are into like the 3rd or 4th season and there crap to watch. Then you have great shows that only get 1 season or 2 at a push and that really winds me up.
    I was watching the epp ‘Deamon Hand’ Man what an episode you could say that was Camron in her prime as a terminator getting the Job done. Now when you look at her in season two man what a change. I think that was the direction they were going for and I think they pulled it off well. Perhaps people did not want to see that but I feel that it gives the show substance which is a good thing.

  • Lewis

    Thats what I mean i see some shows and they are into like the 3rd or 4th season and there crap to watch. Then you have great shows that only get 1 season or 2 at a push and that really winds me up.
    I was watching the epp ‘Deamon Hand’ Man what an episode you could say that was Camron in her prime as a terminator getting the Job done. Now when you look at her in season two man what a change. I think that was the direction they were going for and I think they pulled it off well. Perhaps people did not want to see that but I feel that it gives the show substance which is a good thing.

  • Cameron, her damaged chip and her hand twitch are the best things that could have happened to the show.

  • Cameron, her damaged chip and her hand twitch are the best things that could have happened to the show.

  • Lew1

    I bet jon connor likes her hand twitch if you get what i mean. Question though you remember the 1st eppisode of season 2 where camron tell Jon she loves him I bet that was allisons memorys coming through, Just a thought.

  • Lewis

    I bet jon connor likes her hand twitch if you get what i mean. Question though you remember the 1st eppisode of season 2 where camron tell Jon she loves him I bet that was allisons memorys coming through, Just a thought.

  • “I bet jon connor likes her hand twitch if you get what i mean.”
    Lol.

    I think you might be right about Allison’s memories except I have never seen terminators download the memories of the people they are imitating.

  • “I bet jon connor likes her hand twitch if you get what i mean.”
    Lol.

    I think you might be right about Allison’s memories except I have never seen terminators download the memories of the people they are imitating.

  • Lew1

    In the epp Dungeons and Dragons i bet there is more to that i bet they are trying to find away to take/download there memorys onto there chips. It would make sense if you think the teminator might of known how close Jon and Allison are/get so the most logical thing for it to do would be to take allisons memorys to get close to jon.

  • Lewis

    In the epp Dungeons and Dragons i bet there is more to that i bet they are trying to find away to take/download there memorys onto there chips. It would make sense if you think the teminator might of known how close Jon and Allison are/get so the most logical thing for it to do would be to take allisons memorys to get close to jon.

  • Lew1

    Just found out on Summer Glau’s offical websight that FOX are not picking up TTSCC for season 3. If you go to http://www.summer-glau.net/wp/ she has left a thnkyou message to all her fans and tell us that there will not be a 3rd seaso. I am Gutted. Is it possible that someone eles could pick it up?
    This has ruined my day big time look at all the ideas we had and wanted to see if the played out. This is utter BS.

  • Lewis

    Just found out on Summer Glau’s offical websight that FOX are not picking up TTSCC for season 3. If you go to http://www.summer-glau.net/wp/ she has left a thnkyou message to all her fans and tell us that there will not be a 3rd seaso. I am Gutted. Is it possible that someone eles could pick it up?
    This has ruined my day big time look at all the ideas we had and wanted to see if the played out. This is utter BS.

  • I am very aware Lewis. Sad news indeed. You should check the front page of the site on a daily basis. I posted the story about the cancelation at 8 AM. Sad news indeed.

  • I am very aware Lewis. Sad news indeed. You should check the front page of the site on a daily basis. I posted the story about the cancelation at 8 AM. Sad news indeed.

  • Lew1

    oh yeah sorry about that I did not see that i was so enraged that i went straight to this. I hope that scifi pick up the 3rd season its a long shot though. I read that if scifi pick it up they will change the writing and make it more action packed and stop all the family issues and stuff like that. I quite like in depth plots though as it gives substance to the show but at this point i just hope another channel picks it up.

    P.s I have just been able to get back to this sight and i am liking the new layout.

  • Lewis

    oh yeah sorry about that I did not see that i was so enraged that i went straight to this. I hope that scifi pick up the 3rd season its a long shot though. I read that if scifi pick it up they will change the writing and make it more action packed and stop all the family issues and stuff like that. I quite like in depth plots though as it gives substance to the show but at this point i just hope another channel picks it up.

    P.s I have just been able to get back to this sight and i am liking the new layout.

  • Where exactly did you read that info about sci-fi channel?

    I had to change it because I didn’t have Flash installed on my MacBook (I do now). It was causing the site not to display properly so I changed it to that theme while I ironed out the problem. The theme you saw, probably the red one with the X certainly, has a few advantages this one does not but it doesn’t have the rotating banner at the top. I am going to have a brand new theme custom made soon anyway.

    Which theme do you like more? I had quite a few up today.

  • Where exactly did you read that info about sci-fi channel?

    I had to change it because I didn’t have Flash installed on my MacBook (I do now). It was causing the site not to display properly so I changed it to that theme while I ironed out the problem. The theme you saw, probably the red one with the X certainly, has a few advantages this one does not but it doesn’t have the rotating banner at the top. I am going to have a brand new theme custom made soon anyway.

    Which theme do you like more? I had quite a few up today.

  • Lew1

    I do actually prefer this one its what i have grown accustomed to.

    To be honest I can not remember where i saw it but they said it came from a source that has not been wrong yet. She said that if SciFi were to take it they would have a different writing style and make it more action packed because there was just not enough in season 2.

    It would make sense as Most of season 2 was classed as a flop people just feel there was not enough gun fights and things going bang. That what winds me up it had a good story who cares about exsplosions its all about the story. Truefuly I cannot see Scifi taking it though i just do not think the have the budget.

  • Lew1

    if i find the site i will let you know

  • Lewis

    I do actually prefer this one its what i have grown accustomed to.

    To be honest I can not remember where i saw it but they said it came from a source that has not been wrong yet. She said that if SciFi were to take it they would have a different writing style and make it more action packed because there was just not enough in season 2.

    It would make sense as Most of season 2 was classed as a flop people just feel there was not enough gun fights and things going bang. That what winds me up it had a good story who cares about exsplosions its all about the story. Truefuly I cannot see Scifi taking it though i just do not think the have the budget.

  • Lewis

    if i find the site i will let you know

  • I believe budget issues were why they stopped making Farscape.

    If they can add more action to the story fine but do not cut away the story.

  • I believe budget issues were why they stopped making Farscape.

    If they can add more action to the story fine but do not cut away the story.

  • 790

    Time to move on Lewis. 🙂

    Farscape was cancelled because a few of the Sci-Fi channel suits were pressured into canceling the show after one of the episodes was taken the wrong way by the Sci-fi execs. It had something to do with 9-11 and a forth season episode.

  • 790

    Time to move on Lewis. 🙂

    Farscape was cancelled because a few of the Sci-Fi channel suits were pressured into canceling the show after one of the episodes was taken the wrong way by the Sci-fi execs. It had something to do with 9-11 and a forth season episode.

  • They canceled one of their best shows over that? Genius move.

  • They canceled one of their best shows over that? Genius move.

  • 790

    Oh yeah FB, Sci-fi channel is run by monkeys. Stupid monkeys!!!

  • 790

    Oh yeah FB, Sci-fi channel is run by monkeys. Stupid monkeys!!!

  • Wait until you see my Caprica review. I will up it either a day before or the day the first ep/pilot airs.

  • Wait until you see my Caprica review. I will up it either a day before or the day the first ep/pilot airs.

  • 790

    Can’t wait for your Terminator review FB!
    I have my comments already to go!

    🙂

  • 790

    Can’t wait for your Terminator review FB!
    I have my comments already to go!

    🙂

  • Lew1

    theres only one Terminator for me and that TTSCC, and this new film will not be able to fill the void. by the way whats Caprica is that a new show coming out. I liked the show angel and when that stopped it sucked but was understandable it got 5 seasons and yes they left it on a clif hanger will they survive sort of thing but with TTSCC it left it wide open and I mean wide open and to add to that it only got 2 seasons. So now we know that there is no 3rd season they have left it at the worst point there is NO Resistance Leader john connor. So where does that lead to for the new film it will not follow on. because when I see the new film I will just be like John connor who hes not the leader know. No what im saying

  • Lewis

    theres only one Terminator for me and that TTSCC, and this new film will not be able to fill the void. by the way whats Caprica is that a new show coming out. I liked the show angel and when that stopped it sucked but was understandable it got 5 seasons and yes they left it on a clif hanger will they survive sort of thing but with TTSCC it left it wide open and I mean wide open and to add to that it only got 2 seasons. So now we know that there is no 3rd season they have left it at the worst point there is NO Resistance Leader john connor. So where does that lead to for the new film it will not follow on. because when I see the new film I will just be like John connor who hes not the leader know. No what im saying

  • Lew1

    So i just had a look at this site http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/sarah-connor-season-finale-will-wrap-things-up-sort-of.php and the writer is trying to say that they wrapped up season 2 for us. Are they kidding me.

  • Lewis

    So i just had a look at this site http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/sarah-connor-season-finale-will-wrap-things-up-sort-of.php and the writer is trying to say that they wrapped up season 2 for us. Are they kidding me.

  • I have to see the film first. I am working on reviews for Taking Chance, Red Cliff 2, Caprica ep.0, Torso and Hearts & Minds presently.

  • I have to see the film first. I am working on reviews for Taking Chance, Red Cliff 2, Caprica ep.0, Torso and Hearts & Minds presently.

  • The show and the film exist outside of each other.

  • The show and the film exist outside of each other.

  • That interview was before the show was canceled.

  • That interview was before the show was canceled.

  • Lew1

    either way though he must have known becuase why would he be saying that he thinks he has wrapped it up nicely becuase for all he knew he had a 3rd season so it would not really matter if he rounded it off right?
    Thats so pointless having the show seperate from the film it just makes the show worthless in the end evryone will be loving the film and forgeting about the TV show. But then we all know its about ratings, that bring in the money and hey money makes the world go round.

  • Lewis

    either way though he must have known becuase why would he be saying that he thinks he has wrapped it up nicely becuase for all he knew he had a 3rd season so it would not really matter if he rounded it off right?
    Thats so pointless having the show seperate from the film it just makes the show worthless in the end evryone will be loving the film and forgeting about the TV show. But then we all know its about ratings, that bring in the money and hey money makes the world go round.

  • 790

    Lol, newsflash, the film is crap.

    Saw it yesterday,,,

  • 790

    Lol, newsflash, the film is crap.

    Saw it yesterday,,,

  • Lew1

    Its not out yet in the UK. But I for one will be boycoting it even though it has nothing to do with fox. I just don’t want to watch it because it does not follow on from TTSCC. Have you watched season 2 yet 790?

    I’m not one to ramble on but When TTSCC got axed it was a sad, sad day. It hapeend to Firfefly And now this. Yet S**T shows like prison break get 4 seasons oh the mind boogels.

  • Lewis

    Its not out yet in the UK. But I for one will be boycoting it even though it has nothing to do with fox. I just don’t want to watch it because it does not follow on from TTSCC. Have you watched season 2 yet 790?

    I’m not one to ramble on but When TTSCC got axed it was a sad, sad day. It hapeend to Firfefly And now this. Yet S**T shows like prison break get 4 seasons oh the mind boogels.

  • 790

    No I’m waiting for the season 2 dvds.

    They should be out soon.

  • 790

    No I’m waiting for the season 2 dvds.

    They should be out soon.

  • Prison Break was good until Season 4. Season 2 and 3 were the best.

  • I hoped that would not be the case.

  • Prison Break was good until Season 4. Season 2 and 3 were the best.

  • I hoped that would not be the case.

  • Or use Hulu. All the eps are there and its free.

  • Or use Hulu. All the eps are there and its free.

  • Lew1

    How can you say season 2 and 3 of prison break were the best. season 2 was really bad season 3 had Potential but it did not come through. Then ending was a bit of a shock though. But thats my point you have to agree that TTSCC was better then prison break so surely some channel must seize this opp and take this show.

  • Lewis

    How can you say season 2 and 3 of prison break were the best. season 2 was really bad season 3 had Potential but it did not come through. Then ending was a bit of a shock though. But thats my point you have to agree that TTSCC was better then prison break so surely some channel must seize this opp and take this show.

  • That is my opinion Lewis. Those two seasons had me glued in a way the first and the last did not.

    I hope “some channel must seize this opp and take this show.”

  • That is my opinion Lewis. Those two seasons had me glued in a way the first and the last did not.

    I hope “some channel must seize this opp and take this show.”

  • Lew1

    fair enough, but really season 2. I just saw eppisode 2 of Dollhouse and even though it was just a woman running through the woods it was not that bad. Not saying that it is better then TTSCC but I think the show will get better, and because the show is by Joss weadon i am Expecting something special. Thats where Terminator fell down great story just not enogh action. Everyone is moaning about dollhouse me included but now I am not to sure I think it will or can become quite a good show.

  • Lewis

    fair enough, but really season 2. I just saw eppisode 2 of Dollhouse and even though it was just a woman running through the woods it was not that bad. Not saying that it is better then TTSCC but I think the show will get better, and because the show is by Joss weadon i am Expecting something special. Thats where Terminator fell down great story just not enogh action. Everyone is moaning about dollhouse me included but now I am not to sure I think it will or can become quite a good show.

  • Time will tell. We'll see. Just watched Ep. 13 of Dollhouse. The show certainly took a different direction.

  • Time will tell. We'll see. Just watched Ep. 13 of Dollhouse. The show certainly took a different direction.

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